Necktie holders



Aug, 28, 1962 .1. T. scuLLY NECKTIE HOLDERS 2 Sheets-Sheet 1 Filed March 23, 196C ug- 28, 1962 J. T. scuLLY 3,050,737

v NECKTIE HOLDERS Filed March 23, 1960 2 Sheets-Sheet 2 INVENTOR:

3,050,737 NECKTIE HOLDERS John T. Scully, 235 W. 76th St., New York, N.Y. Filed Mar. 23, 1960, Ser. No. 17,074 3 Claims. (Cl. 2-153) This invention relates, generally, to necktie holders for use in pre-tied, four-in-hand neckties and more particularly to pre-tied, four-in-hand neckties which are fastened to the front of a collar by a fastening hook engaged over the top edges of the fastening tabs of a collar.

Among the objects of the invention is the provision of a generally improved necktie holder of the above referred to type; the provision of such a type necktie holder which is economical and easy to manufacture and which is adapted to make pre-tied four-in-hand neckties more attractive in appearance; and the provision of a necktie holder for pre-tied, four-in-hand necktie which is clamped to the tab ends of a collar by cooperative clamping members one of which is inside the knot of the necktie and obscured from view. A further object is the provision of a necktie holder, having cooperative clamping members, which may be used to quickly and easily clamp a four-in-hand necktie to the tab ends of a collar.

hese and other objects will become apparent from the description and the accompanying drawing in which similar reference characters or numerals refer to similar or corresponding parts throughout the several views.

Referring to the drawing in which FIGURES 4-9 and 1115, inclusive, are shown in enlarged scale: FIG. 1 is a fragmentary front View of -a necktie in which the improved necktie holder is incorporated; FIG. 2 is a view of the necktie shown in FIG. 1 turned 180 degrees; FIG. 3 is a top view of the necktie shown in FIG. 2 Iand showing the rear of the knot; FIG. 4 is a partly sectional and partly plan or elevational View of the necktie holder part of the knot portion hooked over collar tabs, the sectional view being taken on line 4-4 of FIG. 2; FIG. 5 is a front elevational vieW of the part shown in FIG. 4; FIG. 6 is a top view of the part `shown in FIG. 5; FIG. 7 is an elevational view of the part shown in FIG. 5 turned 180 degrees; FIG. 8 is an elevational view of the part as shown in FIG. 6 turned upside down; FIG. 9 is a partly elevational and sectional view of the necktie shown in FIG. 2, the view being taken on the line 9 9 of FIG. 2; FIG. 10 shows a front portion of the knot portion, with parts of the knot withdrawn and showing a fastening part in section to illustrate structure details at the rear of the knot portion and on the inside thereof; FIG, 11 is a modification of a part as shown in FIG. 7; FIG. 12 is a front elevational view of 'a further modification of a part; FIG. 13 is a side elevational and sectional view of the part shown in FIG. 12, the sectional view being similar to the section shown in FIG. 4; FIG. 14 is a View similar to the view in FIG. 13, but with a part shown in changed or adjusted position; and FIG. l5 is a front view of a. further modiiicationof a part otherwise similar to the part shown in FIGS. 12, 113 and 14.

Referring in more detail to the drawing:

The necktie and its parts shown in FIGS. 1 to lO inclusive comprises a tied member, generally designated T, and a necktie holder, generally designated F. The tied member may be constructed in accordance with any suitable'tied member known in the art and may be particularly constructed according to the structure of any suitable member shown in my United States Patents Numbers 2,400,604, or 2,702,904, per se or with any modifications as herein disclosed. As shown herein, the tied member T is comprised of the usual pliable, f01dable material and consists of a knot portion 20 and an outer depending portion 21 depending from the knot porarent n'n-J tion. The knot portion 20 includes an outer transverse band loop 22 having a top transverse edge 23 and a bottom transverse edge 24 and the band loop is formed of a band loop fold with a short end thereof extending axially oblique to the outer depending portion opposite the latters inner face at the inner end 25 of the outer depending portion 21. The short end of the band of the band loop is shown (FIG. l0) having a finished edge with a pinking shears cut and the corner edges are securely stitched as at 26 to the inner end 25 of the outer depending portion, if desired. Stitching 27 shown on the outside of the knot holding the longitudinal edges of the band loop in proper position at the underside of the knot adjacent its small end opening fixes or limits the size of the small end opening. Stitching 27 can, in manufacture, be made on the inside of the knot by turning the band loop fold inside out temporarily and this is the preferred manner because in the finished necktie the stitching would be invisible from the outside. Spaced from edge 23 in height, but preferably substantially parallel therewith .a slit opening, preferably, but not necessaryily, with its edges stitched, as in a buttonhole, is provided through the material of the inner end of the outer depending portion 21 .and spaced inwardly of the longitudinal side edges of the outer depending portion. This slit opening 28 also extends through the material of the short end of the band of the band loop and in instances in which the edges of slit opening 28 are buttonhole stitched thereby also fixing the inner end of the outer depending portion and the short end of the band together, any suitable substitute, if desired, may be used instead of stitching 26, 26 to hold the parts in relative position while the buttonhole machine is in operation in the manufacture. Knot portion 20 is of frusto-conical shape, the big end opening being defined by transverse edge 23 and the `small end opening by transverse edge 24, and inside the knot portion is the necktie holder F having a knot supporter member S having a forward central portion 29 with a preferably flat, upwardly rear- Wardly, slantingly inclined outer face and preferably substantially straight, parallel upper and lower edges or portions 30 `and 31 respectively. If desired, side members or wings 32, 32 of generally right yangle triangular shape may extend rearwardly from the knot supporter member central portion outwardly flaring from each other at a suitable angle, preferably an obtuse angle, and preferably symmetrically flaring relatively to the knot supporter member central portion. The wings 32, 32 extend to the corners at the top rear of the knot and, in this necktie shown, the tips of the wings are primarily useful in supporting the top rear corners of the knot so that these corners can be used to lift up the outer fold at the front of a turn down collar to facilitate passing a fastening hook over the top of the collar tabs C with the lcorners of the knot between the outer fold and the neckband or inner band of the collar and the tips of the wings are also useful in holding the knot corners in proper position between the collar folds and preferably contiguous with the inner fold or neckband. At the top of member F, a fastening or clamp hook 33 extends through the slit opening 28 at the top rear of the knot portion 20 rfrom the inside of the knot portion and downwardly outside the knot portion at the rear thereof. At the closed top end of the hook E33 is a necked-in top portion 34 on the forward end'of the hook, in this instance formed by loppositely disposed grooves which form retaining shoulders 35 on the closed top end of the hook which shoulders serve to prevent -the inner end of the depending portion of the tied member, which forms part of the rear of the knot portion, `from being accidentally moved rearwardly downwardly and thereby lowering the position of opening 28 relatively to transverse edge 23.

ping, or being moved, backwardly over shoulders 35,

the length Aof opening 28 is reduced, after the hook is properly-inserted, to -be shorter than the width of the hook yat the shoulders, for example by stitching as per lines 28 (see FIG. 10) in manufacture.

Preferably, necktie holder F is ofvany suitable lresilient material throughout and more preferably of a thin spring met-al which, if desired for lightness and economy can be as thin as .015 of an inch. Consequently, hook member 33 is resiliently adjustable and, will bear against the inner face of the inner collar tab in the direction towards the rear of the knot portion of the necktie for securely holding the necktie in proper placeat the front of a collar. The side edges, particularly the inner side edges of the 'hook member Iare reasonably rectangul-arly sharp in order that these longitudinal side edges of the hook in combination with the pressure exerted by the hook on the collar tabs will engage against the ridges of the collar tab fabric caused adjacent the hook edges bythe inward pressure of the clamping hook 33 on the tab material engaged by the clamping face of the hook and,A

thereby, preventing or greatly minimizing rany tendency for the necktie to laterally slide or rock out of position on the collar. At its open orfbottom end hook 33 is slightly inturned as at 36, both to avoid irritation to the wearers neck at any time and also to extend beneath the Ycollar tabs and engage or lift outwardly the shirt .front C immediately adjacent the collar tabs (see FIG. 4.) to minimize. any opportunity for the hook to work or be accidently worked upwardly on the collar.

On the inner side of membervF and projecting towards 'the hook member is an inner backing clamp '37, also preferably resiliently adjustable, which is provided with a clamping face 38 which is convexly curved in the upward-downward direction and is facedly opposite the clamping face of the hook and cooperates with the hook tol centrally clamp the necktie to the collar tabs. Inner backing clamp 37 is preferably located entirely in the concavity or hollow formed by the rearwardly flaring wings 32, 32 and is entirely disposed inside the knot portionrof the necktie and may be formed on or secured to the knot supporter member in any suitable manner as for example by welding or by forming a downwardly Y Y hanging tongue :in the central portion of fthe knot supporter member and then bend-ing the tongue rearwardly; as shown here, clamp 37 is supported by a rearwardly upturned extension 39 of Ycentral portion 29 arcuately bent as at 40 at bottom edge 31. Clamp 37 is preferably completely covered from view by the material of the tied Amember `with the result that of all the parts of the neck-g tie holder F only the closed end and downward portion ofthe hook are visible for commercial ,presentation and, it will be noted, the closedv end of the hook is spaced from the inner backing clam-p, and the latter is spaced upwardly cf the bottom of member F and spaced downr wardly of the top of member F. The material of tbe tied member which is disposed around the wings and externally opposite the clamping face of the inner backing clamp member, in addition to covering these parts from View substantially, also serves as a cushion to rest against the front of a collar and, thereby, minimize accidental sliding or other shifting of the necktie onpthe collar. The inner backing clamp has the bottom of its clamping face sufficiently far enough below the forward end of the hook and the top of the central portion of the knot supporterlmember to cooperate with the hook and' the VVside members inY clamping the knot supporter member to a neckband of a collar with the knot supporter member positioned in a plane 'angularly -acuteto aneckband of a collar.

Referring more particularly to FIGS. 1., 2 and 3, it will be observed that transverse edge l23'of the knot portion will substantially hide, and may completely hide by overhanging, the top end or closedend of the hook from `view when fastened Vto a collar and that the opening 2SV is at the top rear of the knot rather than being Y in the lower part of the knot as is the fastener receiving opening shown in my APatent No. 2,400,604 and thatV the ,opening 28 is at the top of the inner end of the dependfold is very slightly moved downwardly to show the Y Y hook location in this view while in FIG. 2, the band loop fold is moved slightly upwardlyv to show a preferred relationship of edge 23 to the upper or closed end of the hook V33 and in which the band loop rearwardly overhangs the closed end of the hook. By virtue of the fact that all parts of member F except the hook are wholly inside the knot portion, that part of member F exclusive of the hook may be called the knot supporter member.

It will be clear, upon particular reference to FIG. 4 (having FIG. 3 in mind) that the open bottom end of hook 33 extends downwardly below the clamping face 38 of the inner backing clamp whereby the lower end of the hook terminating in end 36 will serve as a guiding or leading end to initiate the engagement of the hook over the top of the tab ends of the collar, for example: by holding the knot of the tied member or necktie, the user mayr first engage end 36 over the tab ends of a neckband and insert the hook partially down behind the tab ends and then may facilitate the seating or quicken proper positioning ofthe hook on the neckband by pulling forwardly on the knot and thereby causing the resilient hook torbecome further separated from the inner backing clamp and thus widen the space therebetween and whereby the neckband will more easily be received between the clamping face of the hook and the material of the necktie opposite the clamping face of the inner backing clamp. Also, it will be observed, upon particular reference Yto FIGS. 4

and 8, that with the hook in its normal closed position or or clamp a necktie to a neckband of a collar unless addid tional material, for example necktie material, is placed between the neckband of a collar and the inner backing clamp. However, this preferred construction of normally spacing the-clamping face of the hook from the clamping face of the inner backing clamp a distance greater than the combined thickness of the tab ends of a neckbandof a collar presents the advantage that the userrcan more easily and more yquickly position the necktie in proper position at the -front ofl a collar by avoiding forcing the hook to force vcrushing or collapsing, such as wrinkling downwardly, of the inner tab end and progressively makt ing more difficult, if not impossible, proper positioning of the hook relative to the neckband. The improved necktie holder shown herein makes provision whereby the material of the tied member may cover the inner backing clamp and provide a cushion of yielding material between the backing clamp andthe neckband whereby the hook need only be forced backwardly -a slight distance to slightly increaseV thespace between it and the inner backing clamp as the hook is gently forced down behind the inner tab end of the neckband and yet the pressure resiliently exerted by the hook'against the tab end Yis strong enough tosecur'elyV clamp the Vtie in position whenV the hook is in final Vclamp position and, importantly, the tab vends will not have been crumpled ory otherwise dragged down or dis- 4downwardly unless, as shown herein, provision is made to j avoid this in instances where the cooperative clamp outside the neckband is covered by the material of the tied member.

In the modification of part shown in FIG. 1l, necktie holder Fa differs from member F by the slot 41 formed in hook 33a resulting in a pair of ngers 42 having inner edges also reasonably rectangularly sharp to engage against collar tab materialsqueezed or bulged into the slot, by hook pressure, to -further minimize any tendency for the necktie to laterallyslide or laterally rock on the collar tabs. Also, the bifurcated hook will function to permit the necktie to be properly positioned centrally at the front of a detachableV collar by passing the hook over the top edges of the two collar tabsV and then downwardly between the inner collar tab and the outer tab of the shirt neckband with the slot 41 of hook 33a receiving the shank of the collar button with ngers 42 on opposite sides of the shank of the collar button. In other respects necktie holder Fa is similar to necktie holder F.

In the further modification of part shown in FIGS. l2, 13 and 14, fastening member Fb differs from fastening member F in that hook 33b is pivotally connected to knot support member Sb for resilient adjustment. Hook 33b has on its closed end adjacent the necked-in portion 34b a pair of oppositely disposed lateral extensions t3y spring pressed by spring tongue 44 on the knot supporter member by its bent tongue end 45 against the concave faces of bent nger ends 49 of fingers 50 in the knot supporter member whereby the hook as shown in FIG. 13 can be resiliently adjusted to the position shown in IFIG. 14 to facilitate placing the hook over and rearwardly down behind the collar tabs and from which open position it can then be resiliently snapped back into Closed position as in FIG. 13. In some instances hook 3317 may be similarly bifurcated as hook 33a to provide a similar slot and similar fingers in its hook.

In the further modification shown in FIG. l5, necktie holder Fc differs from necktie holder Fb in that on the outer face of the central forward portion of the knot supporter member Sc a bifurcated plate 46 having a bottom 47 and a top 43 is welded to thicken the knot supporter Imember outwardly laterally of the tongue and, if desirable, to stifen the fingers engaging the hook. Hook 33C may also be bifurcated to provide the slot to receive a collar button shank as described in reference to FIG. ll.

In other respects, necktie holder Fc is similar to necktie holder Fb. It will be understood that any other suitable pivoted hook construction may be substituted for the pivoted hook construction shown in FIGS. l2, 13, 14 and 15.

It will be understood that the relationship of the size of thenecktie holder, more particularly the knot supporter member, to the size of the inside of the knot portion of the tied member may be any suitable relationship, for example the knot supporter member may be relatively large enough for the'tied member to t on it closely and present a hard feel to the knot or, as herein shown, the tied member may, preferably, tit over the knot supporter member loosely to present a soft or cushiony feel to the knot.

It will be observed that the clamping lhook has a clamping position or positions at an Iacute angle to the plane of the knot supporter member and its central outer face portion and it will be further 'observed that because of the upwardly-downwardly convexly curved clamping face of the inner backing clamp its face will be parallel to the clamping face of the hook at various degrees of clamping angle of the hook acute to the knot supporter member and its central outer face portion. It will also be observed that the preferably straight clamping portion of the hook clamp element engages the inner side of the neckband of a collar (see FIG. 4) and that the inner backing clamp element has its rearmost cla-mp ing face portion spaced down from the generally horizontal upper edge of the knot supporter member a distance equal to approximately one-half the distance from the generally horizontal upper edge ofthe knot supporter member to the ygenerally horizontal lower edge thereof; this relative arrangement of the parts prevents the knot supporter from rocking or being rocked on the neckband forwards or backwards relative thereto and maintain the necktie secure on the neckband with the knot at the desired acute angle thereto. f

Although I have described several embodiments of the invention `for purposes of illustration, I wish it to be understood that these embodiments should not be construed as limitations and that the invention is susceptible to minor vchanges in proportions and details without departure from its spirit `and scope.

Having described the invention, I claim:

1. A necktie holder for use in conjunction with a pretied necktie and comprising a knot supporter member having a'forward central portion and a generally horizontal upper edge and a generally horizontal lower edge, the lower edge defining the bottom of said central portion, the central portion having an outer face generally straight in the up and down direction, the knot supporter member having side members diverging rearwardly with respect to the outer face of the central portion, said side members having bottom side edges inclined relatively to said upper and lower edges of the knot supporter member and converging downwardly from the rearward direction towards the lower edge of said central portion, an inner backing clamp element extending rearwardly on said knot supporter member and disposed substantially centrally widthwise thereon and having a rearmost clamping face portion spaced rearwardly of the outer face of said central portion, said side members extending rearwardly in the form of wings a distance further than said backing clamp element extends to form a concavity rearwardly of said backing clamp element, and a hook clamp element depending from said forward central portion rearwardly downwardly and in said'concavity and being resiliently adjustable with respect to said backing clamp element and cooperative with said clamping face portion thereof to clamp a necktie to the neckband of a collar, the hook clamp element having a closed top end and an open bottom end, said closed top end of the hook clamp element spaced upwardly of said backing clamp element and having its forward end supported by and joined to the forward central portion of the knot supporter member whereby said top end of the hook clamp element forms substantially a rearward extension of the top of the forward central portion of the knot supporter member, the hook clamp element being open from said bottom open end thereof substantially to said closed top end thereof -to receive necktie material and being adapted to receive the neckband of a collar passed upwardly through the bottom open end of the hook clamp element to dispose the neckband of a collar adjacently beneath the top end of the hook clamp element, said hook clamp element spaced throughout -its length at all times from the inner backing clamp element and having a downwardly extending, generally straight, divergent clamping portion adapted to engage the inner side of the neckband of a collar to cooperate with the inner backing clamp element to position and clamp the knot supporter member on a collar with said rearmost clamping face portion of the backing clamp element opposite said divergent clamping face portion of the hook clamp element and with the outer face of the forward central portion inclined to and diverging downwardly with respect to said-divergent clamping portion of the hook clamp element and adapted to be disposed in a plane at an acute angle to the neckband of a collar, said divergent clamping portion of the hook clamp element diverging, at all times, in the downward direction relatively away with respect to the plane of the outer face of the central portion of the knot supporter member, said rearmost clamping face portion of the inner backing clamp element disposed on the knot top of the front of a neckband of a collar.

' from said upper edge of the knot supporter member.

2. lA necktie holder as claimed in claim 1 and with said hook clamp-element extending downwardly a distance further kthan the clamping face of said inner backing 'clamp element extends to provide the bottom end of the hook clamp element as a leading endto engage over the Y 3. AV necktie holder as claimed in claim 1 and with Ysaid hook clamp element extending downwardly a distance further than the clamping face of the inner backing v clamp element extends to provide the bottom end of the zontally lower edge thereof, and ywith said 4clamping face Y portion of the backing clamp element convexly curved in the upward-downward direction. l

References Cited in the tile ofrthis patent Y' VUNITED sri/mss PATENTS 1,636,368 Johnson T July 19, 1927 1,974,528 Brown e Sept. 25, 1.9.34 2,400,604 Scully e May 2l, 1946 2,422,463 Bankson June 17, 1,947V 2,707,787 Laskowski May 10, 1955 2,735,106 Mercer Feb. 2,1, 1956 2,798,226 Kanter July 9, 1957 l.

FOREIGN PATENTS 1,064,894 Germany L.- Sept. 10, 1959 (Kl. 3h27) 

